The Happy Soul Podcast

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Derek, I’m never going to a store once a South side.

I’ve got caught and I’m drinking alcohol, starving to death and this woman came up, he said you OK and told her little bit of my story.

She says hang on, I’m going, I’ll go and get you a picture or something.

And like most people say that because she came back with like 4 bags of food, I was sobbing and sobbing and it was about 45 minutes later.

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So I’ve given up on her and I was sobbing and sobbing and like, Oh my God, that made a difference.

And I do that today, you know, I, I want to give everything away because one thing I’ve found in this world if, if it’s with authenticity and you’re a journey with God to do this, you’ll never go abroad pack given away.

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Welcome to the Happy Soul podcast.

My name is Melissa and this is Sammy.

We are diving deep into conversations that connect and inspire stories of resilience, triumph and transformation.

Stories that take us to the heart of human connection.

Please note that opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect those of this podcast.

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Please listen with your kindness and an open mind.

Each story shared is authentic and vulnerable.

Let’s embrace our differences with empathy, knowing every voice enriches us together.

Let’s cultivated community of respect and curiosity.

Thank you for listening.

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Now sit back, relax and prepare to be inspired.

Welcome back to the Happy Soul podcast everyone.

Today we are honored to introduce you to Doctor Rob Kelly.

Doctor Rob has an organization called the Rob Kelly Recovery Group.

We highly suggest you check out and he has the most incredible story.

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We are so excited to bring it to you.

He’s going to go into detail about his experience with growing up and his experience in becoming unhoused and how he pulled himself out of that, what changed his life and where he is now.

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And y’all, it is an astounding story that is just moving mountains and we’re just so honored and grateful that we can hold space for him today.

So Sammy, what do you think you got anything for?

Us honestly, like we have all talked about how I don’t cry very easily, but I teared up several times hearing his story and not and not because of I don’t want to say the sadness of it, but because of the heart wrenching feelings he must have had.

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Like I’ve just imagining these feelings about how it would have been for him in so many of these situations with first, the first story with his kids, the second story with his kids, some of the people he’s met, like his heart, his, his energy comes through the camera at us.

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And we could feel to the very best of our abilities how much this means to him and how, how, how he truly cares about this.

Like with every fiber in his being is how it comes across.

And we just, I, we just can’t wait to share it with you.

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Like it’s in his, his, the everything he’s been through and every how he uses that to help propel and move other people forward and make an impact.

His the belief he has on treating everybody the same like it’s. 100%.

More.

It’s amazing, yeah.

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I, I just love it.

I He’s on a mission to save lives and he’s doing it and.

We’re just, and it is all of our jobs to save A life.

And that is a message that he speaks deeply about that you absolutely need to hear.

Absolutely.

It’s really great.

Welcome to the podcast.

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We’re so excited to have you here.

We when we came across your story and your information of learning like how you went through homelessness yourself and now how you do all of this incredible work helping others with addictions and homelessness and everything.

It’s so powerful, so beautiful.

So we are thrilled to have you here and jump in and share that story, especially right now because we’re highlighting homelessness or the unhoused awareness month, as we’ve learned to call it, is unhoused is the proper term.

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And so we’re we’re thrilled to have you here to hold space for that story today.

Excellent.

Thank you for having me here.

It’s going to be the podcast a little different return.

I don’t know, twenty of these podcasts down a a week or a month.

But what happens is Courtney goes out when she she finds podcasts that are changing the world.

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And so thank you for doing that, changing the world.

That’s all we do.

I mean, you know, my name is huge in my industry, but we’ve stopped doing the the big ones that ask for us.

But yeah, she she came on and said, listen, we you’ve got to see these guys.

You’ve got to get on their podcast.

They’re amazing.

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So here we are ladies.

Thank you for changing the world.

That’s what you did.

You just made my day.

Ohio, that is the greatest.

People think we kind of humbly ask if we could come on your podcast.

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And then obviously she’s targeted you guys.

And then when you say, yeah, we’re all yay.

And then sometimes the people Google me and find out who I am going, wow, why are you asking for podcasts?

It’s like you have to be changing the world before I come on there.

And that’s just my personal thing.

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Are we going to save a life?

I can already tell we’re going to save a life because you still freaking awesome.

That’s so great.

I was just saying to Sammy, before we, before we started, I was just saying, you know, we love the message of everything that you talk about.

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You talk about so many impactful things that that’s gonna be hard for us because we, so we are doing a mini series right now about the unhoused and specifically about that subject.

What we normally do is we pick a couple of causes a year and we hold space for people to tell their stories all year round.

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And then we take a couple of months through the year and we really hone in on one subject.

So this month is for the on house.

So we want to kind of hone in on that part of your story.

But you talk about so many things.

It’s gonna be a challenge because I like, I have so many things that I would just love to dive into.

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But that said, we want to dive into that part of your story.

If you don’t mind, could you kind of maybe we should start there?

Can you kind of tell us a bit of your beginnings on how you kind of the beginnings of before you experience homelessness and how that started happening for you?

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So I’m actually from England, in case those people thinking from East Texas.

I’m from Manchester, England and I was raised in a lower class family.

We lived on what you guys would call the projects.

We call the the council estates.

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My dad, Doug Rhodes to pick gas pipes for the gas company, and my mom cleaned other people’s houses, which I was always embarrassed about.

But yeah, gangs.

I lived in a tough part of town that you had.

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You had a fight or you get picked on and you go down.

Well, I was always fighting from an early age.

So that was my upbringing.

Music was always in the background.

I was on stage professionally at the age of nine with my auntie and uncle playing.

It’s also when I took my first drink at the age of 9.

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So yeah, I mean, I always wanted to be a pro musician, and that’s what got me away.

Most of the guys at our school died of heroin overdose because drugs started to come into our area around that.

I went down College of escaped all that but lots of love in the house.

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I have a brother and sister, both younger, that suffer from alcoholism.

I did, unfortunately.

And then yeah, it was, it was a tough upbringing, but it was a loving and the house, we, we could only afford two pair of shoes a year and we got 2 sets of clothes somewhere and waiter and that was it.

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That was kind of our thing.

You know, house was always clean as I was filling the table, but I was the guy waving the kids off at school on the bus as they went to the local park and, you know, put up tents.

We can’t afford to do that.

So that’s where my abandonment started.

Wow.

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Yeah.

Wow, when you said you saw your first drink at 9 my gut just dropped.

Yeah, I was on.

I never forget it.

It’s in Liverpool, England, where The Beatles are from.

But we were on stage and there was so many people there.

I was so scared.

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And it came off and during the interval, 15 minutes, I sit him out, I can’t go back on.

I’m too scared.

There’s too many people.

And he said, hey, drink this beer and it all your nerves will go.

So we drank it, all the nerves went.

It was brilliant.

And that’s what I got introduced to alcoholism.

What?

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And what an age to cause?

You’ve already got lots of nerves about those kinds of things too, and you have no understanding about the consequences of drinking a beer to overcome them.

So how easy it is to do that every time you have nerves, find a drink and keep going.

So.

So at what point did this become completely being on?

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I’m sorry unhoused for you?

Wow.

So that that’s that was a period of time probably 20 something years before I got there it and let me build an image of you.

So I kind of wanted to get away from the projects.

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So I went to college and came back.

I started a business that really took off and bought my first house had all the cars married this beautiful lady drunk everyday violence in the house had two young daughters that were stripped away from me at the age of 1 and 3 because I was in care.

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But I was in oblivion for two days and they didn’t get changed or diapers or being fed for two days.

And, you know, they burst through the door and they took my children.

And the last thing my eldest daughter, ages 3 and four, said to me was.

Daddy, Daddy, please stop drinking.

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And and I, I couldn’t do it.

I couldn’t do it.

And that’s the last thing she said to me.

Um, that she has.

So all this is going on start my wife 3 * 1 night because she won’t let me finish my bottle of vodka.

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Just alienated from life, thought masked by by my the money and wealth.

Not huge wealth, but how do I start my wife, my I call a taxi, I call the ambulance and the police and I fled to Spain and there was an attempted murder charge out of me in England.

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I had to stay there for three months and eventually it was all dropped and it came home.

And when I came home, she had everything packed.

And I always remember saying I love you till the day I die, but you’re not going to kill our children because I fell and I’m drunk and left them in cinemas, you know, at one and three, two and four around that age.

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So she left and I got my kids back next day and I got my attorney to go to court.

And then that was when the two days happened when I was in the Bolivian.

Please kick the door down.

And there was police, Human Services, child protection services.

But was that all these people out the door And the police kicked the door down and they served me with unfit father papers.

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And I remember staggering, I was banging headache and I saw them take their children and then I followed them to the door.

And what happened next was still haunts me today.

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So my eldest girl walking down the path with mommy said three things to me.

Daddy, Daddy, please don’t go.

And as they walk further down the path, my daughter turned around and says, Daddy, daddy, please get better.

And at the end of the path, they opened the big gate, you know, behind gate.

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And she turn around one more final time and says Daddy, daddy, please stop drinking.

And I couldn’t do it. 4562 I can’t remember.

I’ve lost everything.

I signed everything over to my wife and I.

I left and went to my mums and and and mum and dad threw me out.

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And eventually I spent my first night on the streets and it was pouring down with rain.

It was freezing out a bottle of wine with me and I just thought for a second, where the hell did that go wrong?

And that was my first first time being on house and that that the mindset was I’ll go back home tomorrow and she’ll let me back in like before.

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But now it was serious this time.

Every time I went on the property, they called the police.

Mom and dad was the same.

And I get getting arrested and arrested.

And then again, after about a week of trying this and sat down in the grass middle of Manchester and the abandonment and the shame and the grief and the sadness all hit me.

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And I just wanted to die, you know, And I, I spent 14 months on the streets and, and die twice, you know, tried to commit suicide like 7 or 8 times and still occasions I was dead and they brought me back to life.

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And guys I hated them and for that because I just didn’t want to live anymore.

I have scars, I have hanging myself, cutting my wrists, you know, overdosing and alcohol poisoning.

And they brought me back to life on a wet, smelly road and the back ends of Manchester.

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And that’s when I realized you messed this up, Bob.

You messed it up.

And it’s not going back from here.

But still not realizing it had a drink problem.

It’s the crazy part about alcoholism and addiction diseases.

And I used to wander around the houses and try and go near school and my daughters went to school and you know, is that it was really sad.

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And yeah, never thought I’d ever come up the streets.

I think, I think the stats in Manchester, England, of, of, of the guys living on the streets, 3% get off the streets, 97% high.

So I had a huge spiritual awakening that that got me off the streets.

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But yeah, that that’s where I was.

First and foremost, thank you for sharing all that with us.

Um, I’m, I’m sorry that that has been your experience.

I know that obviously there’s been lessons and growth and I know that, I mean, I shouldn’t say, I know from what I understand of your story, there’s a lot that you take to to help other people based on that story.

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But that’s a heavy story to carry.

And so thank you for sharing it with us.

I just really want to say thank you.

Of course, I think it’s it’s been so long now that but every time I share certain things, I I still tear up.

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But just got a quick spin on that after 30 years.

My daughter contacted me four years ago.

I’m a messenger and now I’m a concierge Dr. and work with really real top A list, you know, actors, movie stars.

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So when the phone goes, I have to answer it.

That’s the deal.

I could be on a plane within an hour, but this is it.

When I grabbed it was on messenger.

I didn’t have my glasses on.

And all of a sudden I looked at it, it was Charlie, my eldest daughter.

And she says, oh God, here we go again.

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She says hey dad, she can’t be God and I’ve seen you on TV.

I think it’s time.

I don’t believe what everyone is telling me.

I need to see you when I’ve got something to show you, I’ve got something for you or something like that.

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My wife was jumping her down.

I was jumping and of course we have, we have people around us.

So within like 3 hours we’re on a plane back to UK.

We stayed overnight in a hotel and as we were walking there I couldn’t walk.

I was so much shame and guilt and I just, it was horrible.

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I was being sick and we got to the door and I couldn’t knock on the door.

She just opened it quickly and we we hugged each other and we cried and we laughed and what seemed like an hour, but it’s probably a minute.

And here’s here’s the why I do what I do today to tell the people going through.

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She took me by my hand and she walked me into her living room and she handed my 3 month old granddaughter and right there and then.

And you and you still in God’s work and knew that that girl today is my leaf therapist in my Manchester office.

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And I speak to my granddaughter daily.

She’s, she’s, I want to say she’s five years old now.

But yeah, everything comes round if, if you.

So that’s why when I came off the streets, I dedicated my life to helping others and I, I dedicated to the research and the experiments that we did pertaining to any kind of addiction.

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Then we’re going to depression, anxiety, Alzheimer’s, We’re getting to all of that.

We heal because nobody could tell me what’s wrong with me and my family had been ripped apart and nobody had an answer.

And I was angry when I got off.

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So that’s why we went into this huge research, built the company, came out to America 20 years ago and the rest is history.

But yeah, me and my daughter speak every day.

I’m so proud of her.

The other daughter contact me a year ago.

So, you know, it’s helping pop back.

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My parents died, unfortunately.

But yeah, I have a family and I have my sister here as well in San Antonio because we I decided right or wrongly, let’s open a British tea shop in England where you can get bruised food and stuff.

And everyone said you’re crazy in Texas.

We opened it two years ago and it’s doing absolutely fantastic.

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Oh my gosh.

I mean, I’m so glad that that’s where you’re at now that you’re back in contact with your daughter and your granddaughter, and that’s incredible.

Can I ask you what it’s like for you to recall Rob then and look at what Rob now is doing?

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Well, it’s kind of humanly impossible what happened to me.

People believe in God myself.

Whether you believe in God spirit, you know, Uncle Jimmy, doesn’t make any difference to me.

But yeah, trying to keep that spectrum open, you know, but I, I look back, somebody said to me many, many occasions, if you can go back, what would you change?

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And I hate to say the same old, but it would be the loss of my children, first of all.

But what I’ve found back then as I am today, and why we healed so many people pay over 11,000 patients I’ve got is what happened to me there with the loss of the children that died in the poverty, the, IT became my greatest asset moving forward because most people come to us today suffer from some kind of addiction, child loss.

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And it’s great when they come up and they see offices and my cars and I see all that in social media and they go, what do you know, Doctor Robert, homelessness, check.

What do you know about losing your kids, check.

What do you know about dying, check.

And it’s like, I’ve got all these boxes checked off.

So when people come to me, these don’t mean nothing.

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What means something is me being able to be authentic with this guy and and be honest and go, hey, I’ve been through that.

I know how you feel and there’s a way out.

Yeah, and I think that’s probably one of the, like you said, certificates aside, when someone has been through it and done it themselves and come out the other side, that’s more of a motivation.

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I mean, we have another girl that was on on our on the podcast for this month and she was homeless and now she runs a company.

She’s got a daughter, she’s in a happy relationship.

She’s doing amazing things.

But there was a moment when she saw someone that she knew used to be an addict.

She saw him on the street and he looked clean.

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And she was like, he was like her.

Like she didn’t even know him.

She just knew him from the streets.

And that was her idol was if he can do it, I can do it.

And they don’t even think they had much of a conversation, a small one.

But that changed her whole trajectory was seeing that somebody else could get clean.

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It’s a it’s a big motivator.

See, when I was on the on the streets there, there was one time pivotal moment for me where everything changed for me is.

I’ve got the suicides behind me, I’ve got the deaths behind me, I’ve got everything.

I’m on my orbit battered and you know, stuff like that.

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I was at the back end of Manchester, which means there’s only offices and factories.

It was pouring down with rain and I don’t know why it did.

I dropped on my hands and knees and I was sobbing from my stomach.

I was sobbing and sobbing as an atheist.

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I don’t know why I did this, but I looked up to the sky in the rain and I closed my eyes and I said if there’s a God up there, I can’t do this on my own anymore.

About 30 seconds later, Guy went around the corner in the middle of nowhere.

It misses last person from a Bible study.

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He’d been walking for about an hour.

He took a shortcut he’s never taken before.

He comes upon me and you know, we got talking and I’m dying.

He turned back to his houses and recovering alcoholic.

He’s a Christian and he said, Rob, you can stay here for as long as you like.

You’ve got to come to AA meetings with me, but I don’t want to go.

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I hated their meeting, but it was a dry bed so I went.

The second day I went and I met this guy called John and John just blew my mind is what he was talking about.

And I asked him what he sponsored when he said no.

But I will be a spiritual advisor for a period of 12 weeks.

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So for every Wednesday I left Derek’s at six and got there for seven, I couldn’t go at 5/2, it had to be 7 and at one minute to 8 mid conversation you’d walk us out with get back home for 9.

Did this for 12 weeks and my life started to change and I started to heal others with the stuff that he taught me and he said I’ve been chosen to do this and it was absolutely amazing.

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So my 12th day with him and this over 12 weeks, he said, Rob, your life will change from tomorrow.

And I said, John, I love you and thank you for everything.

But I’m in Derek’s basement on a blog mattress.

Nobody knows I’m there.

The very next day, Derek came home lunchtime and he said, Rob, this is, and he knows nothing about John.

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Rob, there’s a guy at work just resigned, sweeping the floor on factory floor.

Do you want a job?

And he said, yeah, So I took the job.

And then after about two or three weeks, I got my paycheck.

And now this stuff that jumped taught me it was healing people.

People were getting well, I bought me a little teddy bear and a card.

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And I wrote on the card, John, thank you for introducing me to God.

Because he Cabinet Hayes took the compulsory drink away and goes, I couldn’t wait to get to his apartment.

I’m John.

You can’t believe what’s happened to me.

I couldn’t.

When I got there, there was nobody home.

And I’m knocked and knocked and knocked and the woman on the right hand came out and says, can I help you?

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I said yeah, his junk is junk.

Kind of moved to something, she said.

John who?

I said your neighbor John.

She said, oh, I work night so I’ve not seen anybody there.

So left hand apartment not on his door.

Big guy comes to the door.

What do you want?

He said, where’s John?

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He said John, who said your neighbor John.

He went on to tell me that that apartment is derelict and if I walked in it right now has in the last two years it’s been like this.

I would fall 36 foot six floors down and something to kill myself.

So I think this guys crazy.

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So it goes back to the meeting where I met John and when I walked in the chairman’s like Rob, I’m like Dang good for that.

I thought I was going insane and we fogged and I said just John still come here.

And he said John who?

And I said John, the guy made the coffee machine.

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We were talking about and he said, Oh my God.

Well, we thought you were praying.

Never found that man and when I got wealthy I hired the best detective team in probably England but definitely Manchester and there’s been no sign or nothing of him since.

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Everything he taught me is why I have a 98% success rate today.

And with the neuroscience that we know in every it was somewhat neuroscience 38 years ago.

He didn’t call it neuroscience, but he was talking changing patterns and healing people.

And here we go.

Yeah.

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That’s wild.

So you have so Melissa’s Catholic.

I almost fell off my chair.

I’m not you see, me almost fell off my chair and so this is like, I mean, we both probably have different brain processes of that story, but holy smokes, that’s wild.

That’s.

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I won’t tell it for 10 years, maybe 12 years.

I kept touching myself because people thought, you know, because when I first came to America 20 years ago with new, new healing things as a clinical psychologist, they took my license on me.

You said I was teaching Who Will Win stuff.

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I lecture to those guys today, by the way.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do and I got my license back and stuff and you know, it’s what we do.

But when I finally told somebody they’re Oh my God, Rob, the same thing happened to me.

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And and the more I told people, people could relate in on your friend or relative that had kind of a spiritual awakening.

So after 15 years, I suddenly realized that an Angel had come down to help me to heal a Masses.

And he kept saying to me, now listen, he kept saying Isaiah 61 and I’m like, I’ve never read the Bible, any newspaper coverage there and the choir.

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But I don’t go to church.

I’ve never read the Bible.

But this Isaiah 61 kept thinking on me.

So I came over here the girl from the church I supposed there were seminar with the chip picked me up join that day she had an interview so off I said let me drive and not drive in America and I suck at this interview.

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She walked in with 30 seconds she come back out again.

He wants to see you and I said you mean he wants to see me.

I’ve got shorts, I’ve got stains, I can’t go in.

And when I walked in, we said we’ve been waiting for you.

So I’ve had to park the car.

He went, no, we’ve been waiting for you.

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So I’m almost on the way out picking his guys crazy.

And we talked and she got the job and he said you gotta come to our group.

We’re not conventional.

We, you know, we pulled it away from, you know, the normal church.

He said, would you come and talk?

So I said, yeah.

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And we’re walking out and I got hold of the door handle that so around and says, what’s the name of your group?

But he said we call ourselves Isaiah 61.

So then I had to look it up and as I 61, as you probably will know, is to bring great use of to heal the sick and bring great news to their families.

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That’s what I do today.

Yeah, I.

I love that you can connect with that because you know, a lot of people can’t.

And it’s like that’s why I’m a successful as I am today because of John and the Angel and God guides me today and he tells me what to do and not what to do.

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I ask him for healing and you know, the big turnaround of of my life and what it’s like today.

It’s might be an issue.

God changed my DNA because I’m not the same person as it was before.

And that’s what we do here.

Yeah, but we use neuroscience and all these tools that we have and you’d DNA changes when you come here.

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That’s amazing.

But I’m so glad you shared that with us.

That’s so.

Amazing goosebumps I.

I mean, I’m sure you’re used to your host just being like, what, all the time with your stories, so.

I always share that, you know, all depends who’s on the other end, but felt compelled to share that with you guys.

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I’m really glad you did.

I’m really glad you did.

Thank you.

I mean, I don’t even have words for it because it’s so incredibly hard to like, because you’ve experienced all of this.

For someone who’s never experienced anything like that to have a comprehension of it.

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You know, I can, I can do my very best, but all of the things that you’ve experienced from from from John to the Isaiah and all of the experiences like it’s it.

I don’t it’s understandable how it’s so life changing and how it’s driven you to do the work that you’re doing to make such a massive impact with people.

27:55

Like it makes makes perfect sense when you’re when we talk about like you’re so you were homeless and then you got this job now working, sweeping in a building.

What’s it like for you when somebody comes to you and they’re in an experience like one of those and, and you’re that first, that first meeting of helping of connecting with someone to help them move forward?

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But most times when people, I have gatekeepers, unfortunately these days because it’s just, you know, I have a lot of people wanting to talk to me and stuff.

So I’ve gatekeeper.

So by the time our first session is they’ve never, they’ve only heard me and they’ve actually met me.

But the first session of we did, we did some tests, we did some tests around authenticity and we got, I think it was 15 guy, 16 guys in a room.

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They were told just to come in chat, drink coffee, give you $100.

That’s what they did, head and chest wired up.

And what we saw, what they didn’t know was 2 surgeons, 2 doctors, 2 electricians, 2 mechanics.

When a surgeon spoke for the first couple of minutes to a a mechanic, the needle hardly moved because he had nothing in common.

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When a surgeon a surgeon it pumped up to about 25% because they have something in common.

After time went by where people are getting used to the environment, we found out that when a Rd. sweeper met a doctor, but they were both being authentic with each other because now relax is spiked up 100%.

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So I like to think when somebody comes in to meet me first and the authenticity hits him in the face.

And if I, if I get someone’s rough and I Curry and they curse and I, you know, I, I’m replicate with the memory part of the brain what they’re like now before they come in, you have to remember this, that we’re very big on subliminal messaging.

29:48

So patient comes along, wants to come in.

So let’s say it’s Mondays coming in.

We do all the research.

My girls look at the Internet, look at his Facebook.

Let’s say we’re in Texas.

He loves the Cowboys.

What happens is this.

So when he parks in the car park, we’ll have a cup, a Cowboys cup in the head somewhere.

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He’s not seeing it.

And when he comes to the girls wearing a, a Cowboys T-shirt with a badge on.

And then he’s sitting in reception and the game from 1990s when he won the Super Bowl is playing on the TV.

There’s no noise, he’s just playing.

So he kind of watches that.

So by the time he walks in to see me in the therapy room, all the guards would drop were best friends because we have stuff in common.

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It’s like if you go to Spain and you’ve got your Manchester United shirt and then you meet somebody, Oh my God, oh, you’re hugging.

You know that guy.

Put the subliminal messaging with the mirroring part of the brain instantly connects you.

But you have to have authenticity to pull this off.

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So automatically we’re like 10% heal before we go, before we go any further.

So I love people cause they say, well, you know, we are highly recommended.

It took me a long time to get here.

But I don’t think you gonna do what you said you’re gonna do.

And I say to this, but they only company in the world does this.

31:03

If I fail in my mission that we’ve agreed, I’ll refund your money.

And Nicole, what, what, what if I relapse and refund your money, man?

Because that’s how confident we are.

And people buy into it, you know, and everybody can do anything they want to do.

31:20

And people don’t believe this.

We’re born from childhood Thomas while patting himself sabotage between the conscious and the subconscious brain runs our deal on the subconscious brain.

Nobody or very ten 2030% run from the conscious brain where are the miracles happen and you see the world for what it is that you know nobody’s really watching you and you can really do anything that you want to do kind of thing.

31:46

But fear runs our lives.

So we we’re not going to take that step in pace.

Got to stop worrying about people, think about you guys, you really have.

Oh, I love that so much.

I love everything you just said.

I.

That is so smart.

32:02

Sorry Sammy, I totally interrupted you.

I just like, I, I have a fascination with marketing and, and brick and mortar retail and stuff like that.

Like I, I really, I have a fascination with that and I took a little bit of it in school and I, I, when you were talking about the subliminal, subliminal messaging, I was like, that absolutely is so smart.

32:26

It’s like when you watch a commercial.

I like, I love picking up on little things like this.

I just think it’s so darn smart.

You watch a commercial and it’s like, it’s a commercial for Cascade.

And so their colours are purple and green and everything you notice, like the plate on the white counter.

32:41

Is purple and.

The guys wearing a green shirt and like making you familiar with their product without even saying it before you even said it.

You’re doing that but just change lives and to help people like it’s so genius.

I love it.

I thought is so good.

33:01

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33:17

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33:36

That’s edhar.org to learn more.

So that the the neuroscience behind all of that says that we can cure anything that you’re going through psych wise.

We can’t cure alcoholism.

It’s a predisposition.

You can’t do that with the hypothalamus.

But yeah, it’s like you can do anything you want to do.

33:53

It’s just a way you do it.

So if you try and insult me right now, I have to accept that insult.

Yeah, I have to kind of.

OK, well, I I kind of agree with.

No.

But if I don’t, if I don’t put my perspective of what you’ve just said, then you you can’t harm me.

34:10

Whatever you say.

There’s only two kinds of people in this world, guys.

And you really have to take note of this after I’m 64, guys.

I’ve been around a long time.

But remember this two kinds of people, The people that love you for who you are and the people that want to be you.

34:25

That’s it.

Boom, mic drop.

That’s it.

Because you have them, even in close friends, you have them.

People that don’t like you succeeding and, and, and the reality is you might have one or two things that you don’t succeed in Ohio.

I failed.

God, talk to The Beatles, man.

Go and talk to JK Rowling.

34:42

See how many times they failed just because you fail.

You have to learn from that.

You’re no such thing is losing.

There’s no such thing as a Plan B.

When you can really with the neuroscience, change the way you think, change the passion, change your energy and make things happen.

34:58

You can draw people to you when, when you take these off as a human being and you look around and you go, Oh my, yes, Oh my goodness, yes, goodness.

I mean, we, we work with entrepreneurs, we work with podcasters, we work with business.

35:15

Unbelievable success because we’ve all got that success in us.

And the research shows us that every single neural pathway in the brain for health, for wealth, for success, all that is already built inside the brain.

35:30

What we do is we connect them and the reason why you’ve never been successful is like, well, this, this is being the best mom in the world or the the richest and all of a sudden you’re trying to join and fear resentment that adult childhood trauma.

And we connect them pathways.

35:47

And we also learned that there are billions of pathways in their head.

Billions but 300 You know, pathways which are thought patterns die every day.

What are we replacing them with?

Are we replacing them with the same old trauma, the same old thought cans the same are replacing them with new flourished ideas and belief that you can do anything.

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And sooner or later the old pathways to self sabotage set apart because the the pathways for success is multiplying and multiplying and multiplying on a daily basis.

And nobody can stop you.

Nobody can stop you.

Don’t let anybody tell me you can’t achieve your dreams.

36:29

Somebody put that there.

I mean, I might to political politics.

I don’t know why.

I just don’t like it.

I’m not bothered who’s in.

But we can’t.

We can’t.

We have to mention the fact, guys, that eight years ago or so we had a businessman running the country, Not a politician, a business.

36:47

Don’t ever tell me you can’t achieve your dreams, man.

It’s not true.

It’s not.

It’s the old patterning, you know, If you get on a bus somewhere, you go to the seaside with a bunch of friends, few beers, have a great laugh, you get back on the bus, it sits there.

37:03

You sit in the one, you travel there.

That’s all thought pattern behavior.

In actual fact, somebody sits there a That’s my seat.

It’s not.

But the patterning you need to get away from that patterning and create new patterns, new behavior, new neuropathways, prefrontal cortex, basal ganglia, hyper, all this stuff that’s stuck in the past with the childhood trauma.

37:27

Because everything we do today is a correlation to something that happened as a child that’s stuck in the subconscious brain.

But your behavior will never succeed like if you if a young girl in the house growing up 8910A mom and dad that comes on five and alcoholic.

37:47

So with three times a week she gets into a fist fight, a physical fight that the child sees she’s got a black eye.

Wake up next morning, she goes down to the kitchen that mom and dad come down.

Why does your hair I love you so much.

I’m so sorry for I love you too.

38:02

It’s it’s OK.

That child learns that love equals violence.

Hmm.

Now when she leaves that house, when she goes to college, she will.

This is the kind of the mouth, the the power of the mind.

She will attract the same guy that ends up beating it or alcoholic tendencies or something that’s destructive to the point that if she meets a good guy, she’ll serve sausage that relationship because she doesn’t think she deserves it 100.

38:27

Percent and I think I mean I obviously you’re the specialist in this, but there there’s the two ways that can go.

There’s people who see that and take that that that’s love.

That’s what I should say or they see that as that’s not at all what it is and they go for the exact opposite.

38:42

Is that true as?

Well, my daughter has never drank as to what she saw with me in the house.

She’s never touched alcohol, you know, So that be you’re correct there that that behaviour is, is passed down and, you know, they, they just don’t go anywhere near it.

So yeah, I mean, I was, I didn’t know the stuff in my life I didn’t know was wrong.

39:04

That happened to me.

I got molested, praised.

I got there just bad guys in the back in the day, you know, but one day and everybody bought into this as well.

I was always told that you never good enough.

39:19

You can’t go to college.

Roberts, like your brother, you’re too stupid.

Ohhhhh.

I carried that for a long, long, long long time.

So I was told stuff like that my my dad never validated me or nothing like that and never tell me love, very few words, never hug me, never tell me he loves me.

39:39

My mom was a complete opposite.

But that, that lack thereof, that’s why I can’t keep a relationship.

That’s why I couldn’t keep a job.

It’s like why my sexual preferences was kind of not normal because of what happened back then.

39:56

But we they drop us off at their friends OK every week on a Friday and they would pick us back up on the Saturday when they dropped us off.

We felt it was normal behavior.

Remember that make it pulled out the driveway.

40:12

We had to play a game called the run around naked game.

But the adults in the house and you know, she looks after like 8 kids.

So three adults were two men.

One run around particularly knows when we were naked.

Now I thought that was normal because they normalized it, but that had an effect all through my life on things I didn’t even know at an effect on.

40:34

And unless you go back to one of that trauma, for instance, and uncover, discover discard of that piece of trauma, you will never be at peace.

You will never succeed.

And also some of money.

Money doesn’t make you happy, but your kids back your peaceful life.

40:49

You achieving whatever you want.

You will never get there guys.

You will live an 80% of people in America walk around about 45 to 50% of their capability and capacity because of the childhood trauma.

Of.

41:05

You know what’s wild, Doctor Rob, is we in October, we just finished doing domestic violence and Sexual Abuse Awareness month and we’re moving into the unhoused and the amount of stories that have connected those two together that we didn’t know prior to going into this.

41:22

And like you just said, the same thing for yourself is.

It’s astounding.

It’s unreal.

I think every story has involved it in some way, shape or form.

Yeah, I think so as well.

You know, it’s what it’s what.

And this is the stuff we’ve learned with all the money we spent on research.

41:37

And like I don’t mind saying today with years ahead of everybody else, no one has our success rate and no one is passionate today, as I was 30 years ago when we started.

This journey is like there’s answers out there and you can we can solve them answers, we can solve them.

41:53

But again, what the subconscious brain does with trillions of bad stuff and sometimes good, it stores the subconscious and the brain will protect you.

They’re cutting that off to you can’t recall it.

So if you didn’t cut it off you would go insane.

42:08

So it’s like a defence mechanism.

So what we have to do is use stuff like brain spotting, you know, 9 dimensional breathwork therapy that we have to go back in the subconscious and pick them out one by one and heal that person.

I mean, we, if you know, most girls have a have a huge problem with bands that have died and never made amend that we will get a big photograph of that’s head would probably on a chair.

42:37

And we asked him to bring shirts and pants of your dad that you used to wear.

And we dressed this dummy up like the dad because you can hear with all these tactics that were used.

And the idea is that you become free and and giving and giving 100%.

42:55

You have to do monetary give every single day.

I leave the house because I can unfortunately like that I’m blessed.

But we we do things like no veteran pays in my offices around the world.

I don’t care if you Spain or switch it.

You do not pay $150,000 of my wife and I’s money in our personal bank account goes out to help those those in need.

43:16

And and every single therapy or coaching might in my companies have to carry a pro bono every single occasion.

If they if they drop a pro bono runs out, they have to pick another one.

Otherwise you don’t work for me.

Wow, that is powerful.

43:36

Hmm.

I mean, yeah, I mean, there’s so many directions I could go down with everything you just said.

But I think it speaks to the value of the work that you’re doing, right?

I think if somebody can say if I don’t do, if I don’t do what I said I’m going to do, you don’t have to.

You’ll give you your money back or whatever may be.

43:53

It’s such a confident, a confident way to say it because you you know that your work is so good.

And if you didn’t do what you said you were going to do, you failed, not them.

You know what I mean?

So you’re the one shoot.

And I don’t mean you specifically, but the person that is charging is the one who should be held accountable.

44:09

Don’t blame the person because you’re the one who came within with the expertise.

And I mean, not that.

Yeah, I mean this.

I just want to say this.

I’m a personal trainer.

And I always say to people like, I’m going to spend 2 sessions with you.

And if I can’t help you in two sessions, I’m not.

Don’t pay me for those, and if I can help you then you can pay me going forward.

44:28

I’m not.

That’s it.

I mean, you’re confident like that.

I’m just saying if somebody has an assessment, when they come in, if you don’t pass the assessment, you’re gone.

And we’ve got crying parents and I turned down, I can’t say a name, even though she said I could say pop singer, you know, about 18 years ago and a dad off me $1,000,000.

44:50

Now I say this, there’s people on there.

I had about $200 in the bank at the time.

What I’m saying that for is that what it’s been real easy to take that $1,000,000.

But if I can’t help anybody, I can’t help anybody.

This was a God-given message and healing tool that is made me how dare I not give back And how dare you know, I, I take this like some kind of ego trip or something.

45:13

So when I’m flying out on private jets and staying in the best six star hotels or something like that abroad, I have to remember that.

I wish it was as clever, but I’m not.

This was given to me as a gift to share with the world.

And that’s what I do today.

45:29

If everybody’s not giving back, we have we have $5000 in every saving, every office.

OK, It gets replenished every month.

If you haven’t donated, given help somebody with that 5 grand at the end of the month, whatever’s left, $1000 for instance, I’ll take that out of your wages.

45:49

OHS, you have to give it away, but it’s maybe no good in that you’re not helping anybody stuck in that safe.

How dare we keep this money that’s not really ours hmm.

So we do lots of stuff like that, you know, because some fail, you know, pro bonos, some secret advance.

46:08

I don’t care what it is.

It’s not, it’s not my problem what they do with the money.

Oh, you know what they’re going to do?

They’re going to have alcohol or drugs.

Well, that’s what I do when I was homeless.

So my, my deal is to give them what they do with it.

That’s not my say God will sort that out.

46:24

But he said giving, you know, it’s the giving that matters to me and has to happen on a hourly, daily, weekly, monthly basis.

And you cannot have a day off with you might be the only face somebody sees today before they go and commit suicide.

Yeah, you wanna be miserable because you’re having a bad day.

46:41

Most bad days are 5 minutes that we strung out all day long.

Yes, they’re not really bad.

Alright.

Is that true?

So if I meet somebody, you know, it’s I always tell the story that I go to.

I think I’ve told you on the last podcast account number, but yeah, my my problems, I have a home is not going to be passed on to you.

47:01

What’s going to be passed on to you.

Every time you meet me, there’s inspiration.

He’s like, this is life.

We can do anything we want to do.

And then we’re going to go on.

We’re going to succeed and we’re going to be the best at what we do in the world.

I don’t care if you want, if you wash windows, why aren’t you the best window washer in San Antonio?

47:19

Well, you know, why aren’t you the best window washer in San Antonio is the question.

And you’re going to give me 1000 excuses why you’re not.

So I say this to them.

I think you are.

It’s got a call.

You bring all the evidence that you’re not the best and I’ll bring all the evidence that you are the best and what you will have, patient, is one piece of paper.

47:44

What I’ll have is 20 boxes of information that you are the best and you know what’s going to happen.

Patient, the judge is going to throw you out of court.

In actual fact, he might keep you for contempt, wasting the court’s time to throw the piece of paper away and check all these boxes, proof that you can be away and start doing the best person you could be.

48:09

That’s all people need to hear.

That’s it.

That’s all it.

Is so good guys, so I wanna sorry Sam.

No, no, you go cause I’ve asked all the questions you.

Guys, I have something and it’s probably the answer is most likely wrapped up in everything that you just said, but I want to say it.

48:25

So is there something that we can do as citizens by standards in the unhoused community specifically, that would help move the needle?

48:42

You said that start at the beginning of the episode.

You said that stat and it was astounding.

What did you say, 3% make it out alive or something like that?

It was astounding.

I stopped.

It was one of my almost fall off my chair moments.

I think I need a new chair, but is there something that we can do to help shift that needle over to help, you know, to be a John?

49:05

Is there something we can do to be John for somebody?

Else it has to start kind of high level coming down.

Was speaking to Robert Kennedy right now got our breath box, which is the the night dimensional brain changing software.

49:20

But I think it needs to start hard and coming down.

So there is a bunch of us hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people, thousands maybe out there trying to change this.

But in the interim period, what do we do?

Well, that’s why we started Rob Kelly nonprofit is we’re going to start housing people.

49:37

We’re going to start.

I mean we do this already.

We’ll we’ll help people.

Let’s say a guy loses his kids, is managed to get is homeless, but he’s managed to get a date at court where he can have his child back once a week.

We will pay rent for a year on his apartment.

You know, we will get him a suit to his legal fees.

49:53

And I think if you’ve only got to do one at a time that there’s more houses available than there is on homed people.

What are we waiting for?

And I’ll tell you why, because the homeless people like me and I’ve looked at negative that we are, we are invisible to those people.

50:12

It doesn’t really care.

And and the problem is it does care.

And the problem is that we need to start shouting from the top of the mountains that this is going to be good and this can work.

Everybody, especially for me personally, veterans for what we’ve done to them and treated them this way.

50:29

Everybody should have a house or opportunity.

There’s a great company just started and they have in a backpack.

It opens up to like a four man tent which you can pack up again and move somewhere else.

Stuff like that needs to happen and it needs to be somebody changed.

50:44

But in the interim period, go downtown, man.

Go downtown, take some sandwiches.

If you’ve got money, give it to them.

Give them hope.

If you’ve got some money to keep him in a hotel, whatever it is, make a freaking dent in this situation because it isn’t going to be solved overnight.

But you know, when I was homeless, nobody came to me and give me a sandwich.

51:03

You go, you know, Rob is going to be OK, man.

We’re going to try and help you apart from Derek’s gonna try and help you.

And then, you know, from this stuff.

So we our our projects have Rob Kelly nonprofit.org.

It’s only started a couple of months ago.

It’s to house every San Antonio homeless person out there, every single one of them.

51:21

And as you become homeless, we want we want like $100 million complex with apartments in with, you know, different facilities where you can go for healthcare, you can go to get food stamps, you go get why would you?

All this stuff before I decide to walk away is like, we’re gonna head on, try and do this, you know, But it’s too, there’s too many people who are rich and doing nothing.

51:44

There’s too much money being spent on stupid stuff.

When when you can, you know, you can start looking at this problem that we have.

But every time somebody’s going for office, whatever that is, they promised the world.

And when they get there, it never happens.

52:01

And because we’re invisible, I’m not invisible anymore.

And that’s one of the reasons that I’m always out there.

Everyone, I’ll tell you, I’m the mouth and the guy and the guy on the elevator, it’s going.

Good morning, guys.

How you doing?

Well, I’m good day today.

Yeah.

I’m not dying because I’m not staying quiet about this.

52:17

And we’ve had an effect on that.

We’ve had an effect on that.

So yeah, that’s kind of what I believe in.

Yeah, I mean, I wholeheartedly agree with you the amount of times and I don’t want to like try to toot my horn or anything, but the amount of times people I say a conversations I had with total strangers and people like that would never happen because I just wouldn’t talk to the stranger.

52:35

I’m like, why, like why, you know, why can’t you go away?

You can do something for that person or maybe that person can do not that you’re doing it for this reason.

But when sometimes that person ends up doing something for you, you know you have no idea what an impact you can make for somebody else by just having a conversation or being that kind person.

52:51

Like you’re saying on the elevator it and it doesn’t matter who the other person on the now I can understand from circumstances like if you’re a female alone at dark in an alleyway, maybe not going to talk.

To the stranger.

But as a general rule, you know like.

It’s I’m not going I’m not guy all the time.

53:07

A factual met my wife 10 years ago and unfortunately our first date, I got a late call to speak at this homeless shelter.

I tell him a story and and that was her first date with me and I’m talking about staying alive.

And then I don’t know.

53:22

And she’s like then, you know, putting our second day.

I don’t know why.

Hey, babe.

And our second date, I took her out to eat in San Antonio and we had, you know, the taking the doggy bag, whatever you guys call it.

And we’re walking down the path in San Antonio near the river.

53:38

And we walked past this homeless guy and I didn’t really see him, but she did.

And we walked past him and she stopped and she turned around and she denied you what I did probably.

She turned around and she gave this homeless man the food.

And I was like, I’m going to marry you, girl.

53:55

I’m going to freaking marry you because that’s the deal man your if you don’t believe this guy’s at home do me do me of this experiment.

It’s like words can’t change people’s lives.

Well, doing this experiment if you don’t built up area of people, sneakers are always the best.

54:13

When you see somebody walking up complete stranger, everyone’s walking, walking past them or you say 2 words to him, nice sneakers.

That’s all I want to say.

Nice sneakers hard.

Thanks man.

Turn around watching.

He’s going to look at his sneakers two or three times.

54:29

He just changed his world.

But guess what?

When he goes on to his wife or girlfriend because he’s in a good mood as whether energy comes in, uh, she’s in good mood and then the mother-in-law calls and you get the gist.

You’ve just changed at least three peoples lives too.

54:46

Freaky words, man That’s it.

And if we did more of that, imagine what life would be like.

Yes, yes, so good.

People are mind boggled by this concept of just giving to brighten someone else’s day.

It doesn’t have to be money.

It can be a compliment.

55:02

Like you said, it can be the smallest thing.

But that small thing, it can just make such a I’m gonna I’m getting emotional because I freaking love what you just said so much.

It makes such a freaking difference in people’s lives.

If you can just do one tiny thing that’s beyond your comfort zone, that might be positive to them.

55:20

Yeah, every day.

You have to do it every day.

Yeah, we heard it.

One of the girls, like we talked about her before.

One of the girls that came onto the show for this month, it talks about a muffin.

It was a muffin that changed her life.

A lady slid a muffin under the door for her and she was in tears telling us about the muffin and the kindness.

55:40

And she said she saw me like she saw me.

It’s a muffin.

What did it cost that Lady 2 bucks like?

Yeah, save A life.

Thank you, Doctor.

Rob, I want to ask you now, having someone who’s experienced homelessness and alcoholism, when you come across somebody who is homeless, how do you respond in that moment?

56:03

What is your go to interaction with someone in that in that situation?

I get to the nearest shop first by Peter Sandwiches.

If they’re drinking beer, I’ll bake beer.

And then I’ll go and I will sit down with them and if it’s sandwiches, we’ll break bread.

56:22

And I’ll ask him the story and I’ll tell them my story and I’ll give him inspiration that this is not forever.

This is God’s teaching.

You teach me how to live, how to get all this experience.

It’s not forever, man.

Anybody can change and never get up.

And we hug and friends like God.

He’s homeless.

You wanna hug that?

56:37

Really.

Really.

Dude, You’re gonna say that to me?

Are you kidding me?

Of course I’m gonna hug them.

And I do that all the time.

I mean, I’m constantly driving past gas stations and and locking in.

And I often find a mom or a dad with several kids in the back of the car squeezing out $5 worth of gas.

57:00

Turn the car around, drive in, get out.

Technically, can I can I do that?

Yeah.

What, you thought Philly’s car with gas?

Give him $100 and go on your way and I’m out again, OK?

Can I?

I don’t want any things.

I don’t want nothing.

It’s my job, everything else behind me, I don’t get involved with all the money.

57:18

The it’s my job to try and save A life or lift you up for the day.

It’s my job and I get heavily paid back from God for that, like the granddaughter and stuff like that.

And I will never stop doing that.

And I must start from the people around.

Never stop doing that.

57:34

Because if you do, God bless you, but you’re not my guy or you’re not my girl.

Because Derek helped me death, I’m never going to a store once as outside I’ve got caught and I’m drinking alcohol.

I’m starving to death.

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And this woman came up, he said you’re OK and told a little bit my story.

She says hang on, I’m going, I’ll go and get you a picture or something.

And like most people say that because she came back with like 4 bags of food when I was sobbing and sobbing and it was about 45 minutes later.

58:05

So I had given up on her and I was sobbing and sobbing and I’m like Oh my God, that made a difference.

And I do that today.

You know, I, I want to give everything away because one thing I’ve found in this world if, if it’s with authenticity and you’re a journey with God to do this, you’ll never go broke by giving away.

58:25

I think everybody needs to be taught what you just said in their childhood.

It is your job to Shuma.

Yeah, Peter, Sami sends Mashima.

It is your job to make someone else’s day better.

Like that is what everybody should be taught.

It is your job to make someone else’s day better.

58:42

And I love when you say sharing your I was always taught it’s a it’s a sin to not share your gifts.

And if you have a gift, it’s actually sinful to not use them to better somebody else’s life.

Like that was almost drilled into me as a little girl and it’s taken a long time to kind of sort out exactly what that means.

58:58

But are are just I, I love.

I just love, like Sammy said everything that you just said.

Peter Samuelson calls it.

Well, he said he was reading a teaching from a rabbi.

And it’s a thing called Mashima.

Have you heard of this?

59:15

I just love it.

You have it too.

It’s like, it’s like on the podcast, we’re like gathering all the people that have the neshama.

I love it so much Oh my God.

Did you told that story about somebody who bought you a bag of groceries?

Did you how, how often did something you said you were homeless for 14 months, did that happen very often for you that someone actually was kind back to you or can you name that on like?

59:39

One hand, no, I, I would, I would be begging for money off people that used to work for me on the streets when I saw them, but very embarrassing.

So it’s about a handful of people that did that.

So that’s why I’m adamant today that don’t step over the homeless guy.

59:57

Don’t step over because you’re stepping over that and pretending not to hear him and crossing the road and stuff.

But you know, one day.

That addict, an alcoholic, might just be healing your child.

So you see, what I would hate, ladies, is for somebody see, it’s a lot of money to come here, OK, we’re blah, blah, blah, blah, OK, But daily or weekly somebody puts, somebody comes forward that’s got no money.

1:00:23

And I always ask him this question, what if God sent this person with no money and it’s a homeless, but he wanted help?

What are you going to do, Rob?

You’re going to turn him down because you’re too busy over here and millions and millions of dollars a year.

What you going to do here?

And I always make sure that they’re homeless guy or the guy going through and lives on the project gets the same attention as the movie stars.

1:00:43

You’re paying a fortune.

Because if God placed him there for me and I’ve gone, I’m too busy and too busy, he’ll strip everything I have and I’ll be drunk tomorrow somewhere.

You know, I’ve gotta gotta gotta do this.

I mean, I have a restaurant next door that we opened and right now there’s four people in there were homeless.

1:01:01

I called in from San Antonio and they’re eating whatever they want in their on me.

Whatever they order, it’s on me.

Always people that come in that only order, you know, a plate of chips or something.

Cause given whatever they want, I’ll pay and actually pay.

1:01:17

Even though it’s mine and my sisters restaurant, I pay for it.

It’s like nobody’s going to go hungry.

I might watch guys.

I don’t care if you can’t afford it, I can, you know, and people, oh, it’s OK for you.

It’s your.

I don’t give them free.

I swipe my card on every occasion.

1:01:33

Then I’ll give him $20 to pay the waitresses.

That’s it.

This is my job.

The rest of the stuff keeps my wife happy and pays the mortgage.

I don’t get into that stuff.

I get into who else am I going after?

Who else am I going to look for that can that can help me?

1:01:49

We drive.

I have a excuse me guys, it’s confidence walking with God.

I have a $300,000 Bentley outside and dogs have been in it.

People have been in it.

I’ve picked people off the street or homeless, give them rights with their dog in the back of it.

I don’t give a crap.

1:02:04

It’s my job, you know, and as long as they keep doing that, maybe I’ll keep that because I know one thing, ladies, when I get to heaven, because I believe there’s a heaven, do you know what?

God’s not going to ask me.

How much is that watch you wearing?

1:02:20

Well, how much does that house?

Wow.

Like how you’re going to ask me that?

It’s going to ask me one question.

How many people did you help, Rob?

And I want a big number.

I want a huge number.

Do.

1:02:35

You.

Speaking of the number, do you, do you keep track of how many people go through your, your system and come up your side?

Can we ask you how many people at this point?

He’s got it right there. 11,156 new patient this afternoon, so I’ll be 57, but yeah.

1:02:55

And how long has this company been running?

Since I got here probably about 19 years ago.

Wow, What?

We’re very discreet.

We’re very quiet.

We’re the guys in the background and we’re passionate, man.

I mean, we’re so passionate.

You know, I’ve been, I’ve, I don’t know the streets, right?

1:03:14

It’s freezing cold.

I, me and my wife walking past the guy and he’s like, do you want a coat?

Like what you want?

And I’ll tell my coat off and go next minute.

I’m saying to my wife, I’m bloody freezing cold away.

I can’t help it, just can’t help it.

If it was up to me, we’d be brought bankrupt with all the businesses because I want to give everything away free.

1:03:35

Cause who am I to keep that?

I got it free, why can’t?

So we do a lot of pro boners and stuff to make up for that, yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

But yeah, that’s the deal.

Oh my gosh, can I ask you, when you started coming out of being homeless, when you got that job, what was that progression like from sweeping the floors at that business to starting your own company to help people?

1:03:57

So Derek always said that I’m going to help you.

So I was looking at derricks, I don’t know, 5 or 6 months maybe, and he had contacts with the government or council back in the day.

So I moved into a one bedroom apartment and I, I bought little furniture as I went along and I started working and I, I opened a very small practice with like 2 people.

1:04:17

And then, yeah, I mean, this one bedroom apartment coming out of a huge house with my family because I’ve been homeless and stuff, the one bedroom apartment was like a palace to me.

And I kept it clean and, you know, it had somebody come around.

It was exciting.

Not because I was living in, this wasn’t even a great place to be.

1:04:36

And it was one window this big.

Yeah, that’s all there was, but he was having to me.

And I remember a sponsee coming round and I was doing a prayer over the top man, this guy of childhood abuse, father abused him and I was doing a prayer over him.

1:04:52

And it was a stormy, grey, cloudy day.

And I’m saying this was called a step three breath over him.

And a beam of light came from nowhere and hit him right in the face as I’m kind of looking at him.

And right there and then on my first apartment I’ve got, this is going to be a great show.

1:05:09

This is going to be a great year.

So good.

Oht my gosh, I we could.

I mean, we could.

Sammy, is it too soon for me to ask the this question, or do you have something else?

Well, I was just gonna ask you if there was anything that we hadn’t talked about today that was on your heart that you really wanted to share, that we hadn’t touched on yet.

1:05:32

I I also leave people with a couple of things.

One of them is there was a guy that went to the Golden Gate Bridge and threw himself off, committed suicide.

The police pulled him out, defined his wallet, go back to his apartment looking for next of kin.

1:05:49

What they actually found was a note on his kitchen table and it read, I’m going to walk to the Conget bridge from myself off and commit suicide unless on the way, which is an hour’s walk.

Now that in mind, guys, somebody smiles at me, not that me says good morning.

1:06:07

In that case, I’ll stop right there, I’ll turn around and I’ll try again tomorrow.

Question, how many people have you walk past today?

Guys, who’s heading to the Golden Gate Bridge?

And the second one I want to leave you with member that girl I talked about, this is me and her.

1:06:25

Yeah.

And she’s like, I don’t know, four or five.

That’s me drunk out my face.

But when we wrote the book is when we all met up again.

It’s called Daddy.

Daddy, please stop drinking.

Don’t buy it off Amazon.

Say message Oz.

OK on me.

1:06:41

I’ve got, I don’t know, whatever, 10 copies or something giveaway.

I’ll pay the shipping.

I’ll pay everything like that.

Just send me a note.

Just give it to somebody else that would benefit from it.

And the the final thing I want to do cause I love you guys.

I could literally come and live with you guys.

There’s so much connection it’s unbelievable.

1:06:58

Is this if you’re in the situation that you’re on your own, you’re sat in a one bedroom apartment, everybody’s left you, you’re contemplating suicide, you don’t know what the hell to do 214, 600-0210 is my personal cell phone number 214-600-0210.

1:07:21

Now as I said before, I have gatekeepers have all that stuff.

If you’re going through that part right there guys, you text me, don’t Google me, text me first and tell me that you need help.

You heard me on this show.

What I’m going to do is text you back almost immediately.

If and when the patient, I’ll text you right back there and I will organize to do a 20 minute talk with you that will change your life.

1:07:45

And you know, if it doesn’t, I’ll send you $100 for wasting your time.

So please use this opportunity.

People wait weeks to see me, you know, have this opportunity because I would rather spend 20 minutes on a call with you changing your life then hear of your suicide next week.

1:08:08

That’s a huge offer, Doctor Rob, that’s so so kind of you, so kind of you it and it prompts me to want to ask a question.

Maybe not the best question it off with, but I really want to ask because I think many people, I mean, I think this is specifically more for people who are listening that aren’t homeless or Alcoholics right now and those who want to help.

1:08:31

But we have this negative talk in our head that says like, well, I’m too busy, I have to balance, I have to do this.

Can you share how you do that?

How you balance when you’re offering to give time like that to someone?

How you and I shouldn’t say balance, that’s probably the wrong word, but how you still prioritize time for your wife, for those other things that are important in life aside from those that you want to help make an impact with.

1:08:54

Can you speak on that a little?

Bit love it.

Yeah definitely.

I work 4 hours a day.

That’s it.

Violence.

I worked 4 hours a day and usually home again. 8:00 I’m usually home between 12:00 and 1:00.

I have two English Bulldogs and a cat and a beautiful wife and I spend time with them and we do stuff and we, we have great fun and she’s a great reader and, and stuff like that.

1:09:15

It’s like you have to split your days up to 3030 thirty and 10% can be done doing whatever you do.

But the 3030 thirty in my company is the the 30% of the time helping people, 30% is family time and 30%, you know, is is all about balance and sleep.

1:09:33

Sleep is very important.

Don’t listen to these guys.

I only had three hours sleep.

Yeah.

No, you don’t.

No, come to me when you’re 14.

You look 90.

Don’t play that game.

I only thought you need 8 hours at least period.

And then the 10% and throughout the day.

1:09:48

Really.

So it’s really 100 and talking to God, asking him, how can I serve you next?

What can I do for you?

How can I be of your servant?

What can I do, You know, use me as a tool.

And he usually does.

And it’s balanced now.

It’s fantastic. 2 and I love that so.

1:10:06

Much same.

I we are, yeah.

We are so immensely grateful for your time this morning.

Honestly, we are just, we can’t wait to release this episode and just share your message with as many people as we possibly can.

1:10:24

Yeah, we’re just so immensely grateful.

Thank you for all of your expertise and all of your everything that you said is just so, so immensely impactful.

Yes, thank.

You and thank you for all of the work that you’re doing.

I just think that you are just a the best kind of human and I just, we’re just so grateful.

1:10:52

Holy smokes.

I just love him.

I love.

Him.

I cannot wait to release this episode.

Are we just rolling right into outro?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just, I meant it when I said he’s the best kind of human.

1:11:11

Oh my gosh, I like, love him so much.

Yeah, yeah.

I just like, you know what I think is so amazing?

Sammy is just like, I mean so many things and my mind is like.

Right.

Like I just, I rewind back to when we first decided we’re going to do a month for the unhoused and we were like, we’re insane to do this.

1:11:36

We’re insane.

But something was just like gnawing at us something.

Which I’m going to interrupt you for context.

The reason we said it was insane was because last year we did back-to-back or awareness months and it was we were so busy and overwhelmed that we like we can’t do that again.

And then this year, they were back.

1:11:52

To not that we weren’t grateful to do it.

We were like, yes, we did it.

We felt great.

And at the end of it, we were a little bit burnt out and we were a little bit like, OK, next year, let’s take.

Her read them.

Out and spread them out.

So what did we do back-to-back again?

Because we just were so like that conversation.

1:12:09

It was like we got off the call with Peter Samuelson and it was like, so we’re doing this right.

We’re nuts.

But we’re doing this right.

And then look how it comes together and we get to have conversations like this.

And I just think I just, I’m so, I’m so grateful.

1:12:26

I’m so touched.

I’m so moved by the way that Doctor Rob lives his life like and and, and honestly, if a man with that beginning story, like, can we just rewind for a minute?

His story started at nine years.

1:12:41

Old, yeah.

If a man like that can come out of having his first beer at nine years old and the heart wrenching story of being separated from his children to grow.

Like we didn’t go into this.

1:12:58

But y’all, if you are still listening and you don’t know about the foundation you need to go to, I want to say it properly.

So hold on.

You might have to.

You need to go to robkelly.com, ROBKEL, ly.com, it’s the Rob Kelly recovery group.

1:13:15

You need to go there now pronto.

Check it out.

This is not small potatoes, y’all.

Like this is a massive program they’re running and it is so incredible.

And if a man like him with that kind of background can come out to be where he is today and to be creating that much change with that many people today, He, he, he said it over and over again and he says it in his messaging over and over again.

1:13:46

But anybody can do this and anybody can be successful.

And I just think the way that he is sharing that message is so freaking beautiful.

I’m just so grateful.

Sorry, Sammy.

You go ahead.

I’m so grateful to you.

Like I and I just think it’s wild how he, like I said at the end there, how he popped up onto our into our e-mail inbox when we were trying to figure out who the right person was.

1:14:06

Yes.

And like, you know, when he, when he said that one party talked about like, it’s not a bad day, it’s bad 5 minutes and people stretched into a bad day.

I very much grew up learning that it was a bad day.

Like if you, if you were sick, you, you couldn’t possibly feel better by later in the day.

1:14:24

It was the whole day.

If you were sad, you couldn’t possibly be not sad later on.

It was the whole day.

And I remember as a teenager experiencing like, I was sick this morning, or I was sad this morning, or I was angry this morning.

So I have to still be angry later.

Like, I remember making that conscious connection in my head that like, if I was going to leave my room, I was angry when I came in, so I better be angry when I leave.

1:14:47

And it wasn’t until I got older that I realized, like, I don’t have to be like, I can, that’s a choice.

I can have a moment and I can continue on in this.

And it was that I was negative as a teenager.

Like I was a pretty positive person still.

But if it, if I had, if I had a bad one, it was a whole day.

1:15:03

I couldn’t just move on.

And someone in my life taught me that.

And I, and it wasn’t as I realize that.

And so I think that’s the thing that lots of people can, can struggle with is like, it’s, you can just have that moment and move forward, you know, and that’s OK.

And that, Sorry, go ahead.

1:15:21

Really interrupting you.

I have a girlfriend who says when something bad is happening to her, she gives herself a time limit.

Like she will make herself a time limit.

And she’s given me that advice too.

She’s like, oh, this is a really hard day, Melissa.

Give yourself a time limit.

1:15:37

Hmm.

Feel it all.

Sit in it, cry it out, scream it out, break stuff, whatever you need to do, like feel it, let it sink in.

Give yourself that time limit.

And at the end of that time limit, you are committing to yourself that you are going to change your personal perspective.

1:15:54

Now you’re going to change directions.

Now you’re going to start looking at the silver lining.

Now you’re going to start looking at now what?

OK, that sucked.

Now what?

And, and her advice to me with that has been so monumental and how it’s just so it’s just absolutely.

1:16:10

And I absolutely agree.

It’s almost like how we do things with New Year too.

It’s like, well, this has been a real shit year, so it’ll change in the new year.

Well, why not?

Today.

Why not now?

Why are we waiting for January 1st?

Yes.

Do it now.

I would say this my clients all the time.

It’s already it’s already Thursday.

Like I’ll just start again on Monday and I’m like, no, just do it today or tomorrow.

1:16:29

Like why does it have to wait?

I don’t understand why needs to start on Monday or needs to start on the 1st or it needs to start on the next year.

Like just do it right now.

I absolutely love.

And it takes me back to Terra’s episode way back in the day when she was talking about like their family jobs.

1:16:46

Like it’s my job to go to work.

It’s daddy job to go to work here.

It’s your job to go to school.

And I honestly, I mean, like, I feel like I teach that to the the concept to my kids of like, we need to make days better for other people, but adding that language of it’s your job to make someone stay better.

1:17:02

Do you know what I mean?

And not in like a pressure way of like for kids, it’s lighter, but like I I am happy.

It is my job to spread happiness.

You know what I mean?

And.

Like, you know what?

I think I’m gonna go to my kids and ask them instead of saying, instead of telling them, I want to ask them, what’s your job?

1:17:19

I want to ask them and see what they say.

Hmm.

I’m curious because I like when he says that.

When he says it’s my job.

It was like coming from the inner cockles of his heart.

Like you feel it, feel it.

Imagine the room with him.

You can.

I can.

Feel it here.

1:17:35

And he’s, you know, a lot of kilometers away down in Texas.

Where Miles.

No, no, we’re in Canada.

It’s kilometers.

Yeah, he’s in.

He’s in this case he give miles.

Well, and he was English.

Don’t they do they do colleges in the UK too?

Anyway.

Anyway, man, I just love, I wanted to.

1:17:52

There were so many things.

Like I said at the beginning, there were so many things that we could have dove into and there’s so many things that he is an expert on.

There are so much that we can learn, though.

Just if we’re gonna steer us back into our subject that we were diving into right now, which is a month for the unhoused, if, if we’re just going to take gear back into that direction.

1:18:18

The way that he goes about interacting with people and going about life and going about how people can help is something I think we can all learn from.

And I, I just, I love that he went into the big and the, the, the tall and the short of it like on a Oh no governing level.

1:18:38

We need to start up here and we need to change shit up here.

And he was like, but also what can we do on a personal level?

There is something we can all do.

Yeah.

Don’t tell me there’s nothing you can do.

There’s always something we can do.

1:18:54

And, you know, like, as small as the muffin, as large as money being donated, as small as a smile, like doesn’t cost you shit.

So come on now.

I just.

Yeah, I love it.

I’m so grateful.

1:19:09

I’m so excited to share this episode.

I want to share it right now.

I know.

It’s so good.

I know.

I’m so grateful.

So thank you so much.

Just thank you, Doctor.

Rob, it was amazing to have you on for.

Very great.

Yeah.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

We hope you enjoyed it as much as we did.

1:19:25

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